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With the failure of the European Super League and the ongoing fan protests against club owners, relationships between some of the biggest Premier League clubs and their fans feel like they are at an all-time low.
So it is no surprise a new league table rating how football clubs engage with supporters places those 'big six' English teams firmly in the bottom half - with the message they are "failing fans to some extent".
Protests at Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal have shown the discontent among supporters with United's Supporters' Trust writing to Red Devils' co-owner Joel Glazer asking for better fan engagement.
The Fan Engagement Index,external-link which rates dialogue, governance and transparency, shows how the so-called Big Six compare to England's 91 other professional clubs.
Manchester City rated highest of the six at 46th, but that was still in the bottom half for the 2019-20 season.
Next is Arsenal at 47th, followed by Manchester United (59th), Tottenham (62nd), Liverpool (64th) and Chelsea (78th). Only City and Arsenal improved their scores from 2018-19.
The best-faring top flight teams from the 2019-20 season are Norwich (10th), Leicester (11th) and Everton (13th) with League Two Exeter City top of the table for the second year running.
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Exeter are one of eight League One and League Two clubs who make up the top 10 and are partly run by supporters' trusts or have fan representation on their boards. Reading are the highest-ranked Championship team in eighth.
Salford City - part-owned by several former Manchester United players including Gary and Phil Neville, Bolton Wanderers, Sheffield Wednesday, Macclesfield Town and Swindon Town make up the bottom five clubs.
Fan engagement consultant Kevin Rye, who compiled the index, said the results for the 'big six' showed they were "failing fans to some extent" but admitted "you did not need to look at the table for that" and "a lot of clubs aren't exactly covering themselves in glory".
All of the 'big six', except Tottenham, have apologised or showed regret for their part in the Super League. Chelsea announced on Tuesday that three supporter advisors will attend board meetings "to ensure general supporter sentiment is considered" while Liverpool have met one of its supporters' groups to discuss changes to its structure.
It all comes in advance of a government-led fan review, which will consider supporter involvement and ownership models.
"Clubs have become detached from fans and despite people saying this for a long time, clubs carry on as if there isn't a problem," Rye told BBC Sport.
"We have now seen a very sensible first step by Chelsea and there are models of dealing with this beyond saying that every club needs to have fan ownership. It's a culture and an attitude.
"Premier League clubs that do fan engagement well are Norwich, Everton and Leicester and the reasons for that is their leadership; the people at the top and who run departments all understand what the fan is and how it is different from a customer. They make sure that attitude goes across the whole club."
Exeter City have certain agreements only fans can have the final say onLessons to be learned from Exeter City?
Exeter, who are attempting to reach the League Two play-offs this weekend, have been a supporter-owned club for 20 years, having been left in £4.5m debt by previous owners.
Chairman of their supporters' trust and board member Nick Hawker says that the club is run "for the benefit of supporters and community" and "huge good will comes out of that".
He says the fact supporters donate £100,000 to the running of the club each year, and almost double that over the last year, is proof of what it means to them. He also explains how there is a club trust agreement which has a list of matters where fans have the final say, including Exeter City's name, its playing colours and whether to sell the club or move stadium.
With debt affecting many clubs, he says fan ownership can play a part in running clubs more responsibly and sustainably.
"Listening to what fans want could solve a lot of football's problems," he tells BBC Sport. "Who owns the club? Nobody really. Most clubs in the United Kingdom were born in the late 1800s or early 1900s often through churches or working men's clubs and they are so deeply-rooted in the community.
"We don't own Exeter City, it's in our safe-keeping. That's what some Premier League owners have to understand."
Rye added: "If fans were truly integrated into the 'big six' clubs would they have come to the same decision about the European Super League?
"It's not like buying or owning a shop, if you buy a football club and don't like the fact fans like to have a say and be integrated into the club, why are you owning a football club?
"Clubs are specific institutions."
Fan Engagement Index 2019-20 Top 20
Position Club Division Dialogue Governance Transparency Total
1 Exeter City League Two 60 80 55 195
2 Carlisle United League Two 75 65 35 175
3 Cambridge United League Two 65 65 45 175
4 Newport County League Two 50 80 40 170
5 AFC Wimbledon League One 45 65 60 170
6 Lincoln City League One 75 50 40 165
7 Doncaster Rovers League One 65 65 30 160
8 Reading Championship 80 15 55 150
9 Portsmouth League One 75 45 20 140
10 Norwich City Championship 60 45 35 140
11 Leicester City Premier League 75 35 20 130
12 Grimsby Town League Two 60 65 5 130
13 Everton Premier League 65 25 30 120
14 Tranmere Rovers League One 60 45 15 120
15 Wycombe Wanderers League One 45 55 20 120
16 Accrington Stanley League One 65 30 20 115
17 Luton Town Championship 75 35 0 110
18 Bristol Rovers League One 60 30 20 110
19 Oldham Athletic League Two 45 50 15 110
20 Rochdale League One 40 35 35 110
46 Man City Premier League 35 25 15 75
47 Arsenal Premier League 25 35 15 75
59 Man Utd Premier League 15 35 15 65
62 Tottenham Premier League 30 15 15 60
60 Liverpool Premier League 25 35 0 60
78 Chelsea Premier League 20 5 15 40
NB: Where total scores are equal, dialogue is given added weight
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Source: bbc.com